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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:50:19 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 13 February 2018 Just like the person that shared quite a lot of info to me years ago I to am having problems with the balancing of part G. in a continuous wind around a toroid it seams it was a lot harder than i have anticipated and i might have to go to plan B. it is working fine except getting the primaries just right has been a chore to say the least and i am getting quite aggravated spending a month trying to balance it. since the original more than likely used something that was made from Ziess or rather his partner Abby was likely an E core of some type. since i can not find an E core with a wide enough center leg i have a very good idea to simplify the building of part G to make it easier for everyone that is building or experimenting with the Figuera device. Below is what i have envisioned, a C core cut not in half but length wise to get the flat top i so need for the smooth operation of the brush. by making the C core 6 or so inches wide and long it will make the winding and balancing MUCH, MUCH easier and can be assembled in one day then ground flat the next. it will still be a closed core just like Figuera did but much easier to make. i will be working on this very shortly as i have already contacted my supplier i work with and it can be made with no problem. i will be using square wire so i do not have to grind very little to get a true flat surface for the brush contact. i will still be working on the other one i have but i anticipate this one to be much better for future builds.  Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:51:18 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 14 February 2018
A standard Generator;
As the requirements for larger scale power generation increased, a new limitation rose: the magnetic fields available from permanent magnets. Diverting a small amount of the power generated by the generator to an electromagnetic field coil allowed the generator to produce substantially more power. This concept was dubbed self-excitation.
The field coils are connected in series or parallel with the armature winding. When the generator first starts to turn, the small amount of remanent magnetism (ie Polarization) present in the iron core provides a magnetic field to get it started, generating a small current in the armature. This flows through the field coils, creating a larger magnetic field which generates a larger armature current. This "bootstrap" process continues until the magnetic field in the core levels off due to saturation and the generator reaches a steady state power output.
as you can see the residual magnetization left in the field coils is already polarized ie. a North Field and a South Field thus can immediately start producing power and as it says a SMALL amount of it's output is used to further excite the field coils until the Generator is producing more power than the field coils and the load combined. this power used to excite the field coils is RIDICULOUSLY small compared to it's output and once the field is up to running conditions the power used to maintain the fields is the I2R losses according to Sparky Sweet, in which we already know was extremely gifted and educated.
In the Figuera device we have the EXACT same thing happening except the fact that the Flashing (polarization) has to take place every time it is started. once the field coils and part G's fields are up to running conditions the power to maintain the field magnets are reduced to that of just the I2R losses just like a standard generator.
since a standard generator uses two fields (N & S) and rotates through them from low high low of the North then low high low of the South in the Figuera device we need some way to get the same conditions in the field coils and that is where part G comes into play.
by using self inductance of the coils on the core of part G we get reverse induced voltage to counter act the incoming currant thus reducing the currant flow through the field coils allowing us to shift the fields of the field coils back and fourth. with the North North opposing fields in part G at the positive brush Figuera was able to keep both side of the inductor independent while keeping each side in complete unison. as the brush rotated winding loops were added or subtracted magnetically linking or unlinking to the circuit which allowed each side of the brush to increase or decrease the currant flow through the primary field coils thus sweeping the fields back and fourth over the secondary maintaining the required pressures between them.
once the secondary is polarized from the primaries ( just like in a squirrel cage motor) the primaries and the secondaries part ways and the primaries are the motive force that exerts motion into the secondaries. at that time the two systems are maintaining them self independently and at no time is the power in the excitation of the primaries used in the output of the secondary and the load aside from the small portion of the output used in maintaining the field through excitation and losses just like that of a standard generator.
Always remember Transformers Transform up, down or isolate both sides remaining equal minus losses.
Generators Generate both sides NOT EQUAL.
Imagine that !
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:52:03 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 14 February 2018
I can EXPLAIN it to YOU but i can't UNDERSTAND for you.
That is your job through experimenting which will lead you to learning and understanding.
learning is not through osmosis but through experimenting.
ACTION !
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:53:34 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 15 February 2018 - Last edited 15 February 2018 As you can read from the description of a standard Generator that if it wasn't for the Lenz effect (Cogging) a standard Generator would be an OU device. the massive chunk of iron being pulled back into register from the Lenz effect when currant is being drawn is astronomical to say the least and takes way, way more power to rotate it than it puts out so what we are left with is an inefficient poison farting machine that cost to much to run and destroys our environment. this spell cast from the status quo has remained for 150 years and it is time to break that spell and crush it into the ground. The Figuera device is rather simple to make, runs nearly silent and best of all after being started requires NO outside power and saves our environment from the TOXIC WASTE spewed from the present day machines. since it it not connected to the failing grid that those Morons want US to pay for while they rake in the money, you will never have a power outage again, he had this device running in his house in Barcelona Spain and most likely in the Canary Island's also. plus back then YOU HAD TO HAVE A WORKING DEVICE TO PATENT IT unlike today you can patent a French fart if it smells different. I see people are trying to over complicate this device from the description of the patent but the truth be told this device is rather simple but the patent is VERY, VERY confusing and was worded that way to ward of the banksters from hiding it completely like most of them they get there hands on. I hope in my efforts i have described the device in a understandable way. i know i have brought up a few functions many, many times but all i was trying to do is word it a little different since not everyone understands at the same level or description. thus my goal is to get this info out to the masses to let people know that not only have we been lied to for over 150 years but that we do NOT have to live like we are now. we are the only creature on this planet that has to pay some other greedy jack ass to live and I for one find this VERY, VERY DISTURBING on many levels. Michael Tellinger has a lot of wonderful things to say and I for one agree with him as i know we can live in a society where we ALL chip in for the good of the whole where crime will be a thing of the past and all our needs are taken care of with the ability to explore everyone of your talents or desires all by chipping in a few hours a day. we are heading down a one way dead end street lead by CORRUPT GOVERNMENTS and GREEDY OUT OF CONTROL CORPORATIONS that think of us as expendable dollar signs in there disgusting lust for power and control. we the people of this world can NO LONGER sit by in idle and watch them destroy us and this world so GET OFF YOUR BUTTS AND BUILD THIS DEVICE or at least spread the info i have provided. your very survival may depend on it in the very, very near future. exposing this information to your children is the up most priority as they may well be the generation to lead humanity to a new frontier in the evolution and survival of the human race.  Like i said stay with the present control of enslavement or stand up and make a difference. IT"S ALL UP TO YOU ! If you like the thread give it a thumbs up or leave a good comment. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:55:56 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 16 February 2018  Again i can not emphasize the importance of reading and understanding the patent using the tools and know how of that time frame of the turn of the century. in the patent it specifically says and I Quote, and end Quote. so if it is just a drawing for understanding of the system and the resistance is in it's complete elementary form then thinking of that time frame this really reduces the outcome of the possible uses he used and implemented in his device. IF R has some resistance but is NOT a resistor as stated in the patent of just some resistance then how could someone reduce the currant without using resistors that waste power like no tomorrow through heat then we are left with ONLY ONE LOGICAL OUTCOME and that is magnetic resistance. very few used this technic to manipulate currant and Tesla was one of them. Figuera on the other hand figured out that by putting winding's on a iron core (Amplifying self Inductance) with a rotating positive brush he could split the feed into two and manipulate each side of the brush keeping them completely separate with north opposing fields and vary their currant in absolute unison. this allowed Figuera to get his primaries a very orderly rise and fall of currant presented to them and maintaining the required pressure for a specific output. as i have outlined from previous post the pressure between the primaries is directly related to the number of field lines thus the intensity of the E field presented to the secondaries. if this pressure is not maintained between the primaries the induction will fall to that of just the rising electromagnet. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:57:01 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 18 February 2018 - Last edited 18 February 2018
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This is exactly what is taking place in the Figuera device.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:58:17 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 19 February 2018  I think this graph will help people understand what is taking place and why the Circular E field is circulating around the secondary. study the graph and the relationship or orientation of the Magnetic fields to the Electric fields then apply to this device or the device you are working on. Magnetic fields cut the wire Electric fields follow along the wire. since the Electric fluid travels on the outside of the wire it seams that there can be no resistance from the wire but from the magnetic field causing drag on the moving charges themselves. so therefore the Figuera device part G should make much more sense to you that a magnetic field is used to control currant. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:59:02 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 21 February 2018
I surely hope no one out there is following PJK video or using any of his advice as he is a total train wreck when it comes to the workings of the Figuera device and the info he posts is laughable at best.
while i do applaud his efforts in his fine collection of apparent free energy devices he know NOTHING about the operation of the Figuera device and it's totally obvious he knows nothing about magnetic resistance.
i have laid out in good detail the real functions and operation of the Figuera device backing it up with Physics that can not be disputed. i'll give the satisfaction of the argument about the resistance of the wire as that does take a rather large leap of faith but all the other information i have presented has been researched for many, many years with test performed at my own home not relying on other person hearsay. there is a working device here in the United states but that person is hell bent on keeping it to himself reducing posts to cryptic garb that 98 % can not understand or are not able to read between the lines.
i try to explain the device as well as i can and i share any and all the information i have learned through my research that i have performed with the public through forums and youtube. my hope or rather my intention is to spread as much information as i can about this device to as many people as i can so when shit hits the fan (and it's coming) that people around the world will be able to build this device and hopefully be the pioneers to lead mankind into a new frontier out of the devastation the corrupt Governments and the World Corporate slugs have lead us into.
in the very near future food will be scarce so it will be up to families, individuals to grow their own food, heat their own houses and provide electricity for themselves. if not for devices like this and the two others i have mentioned that will not take place and people will die.
Corporate world and our Government do not have OUR BEST INTEREST and are hell bent to destroy and control us so it BEHOVES YOU to download all info from these devices and spread that information with everyone you know.
the more that knows about these devices the less likely they will be able to rid this information from the minds of the people. ignorance leads you to Government and Corporate control while intelligence will set you free and it is up to the people of this world to stand up, tell these Murderers NO ! we are in charge of our lives NOT YOU.
The Figuera device WAS and IS a REAL device that he had in his home in the Canary Islands and Barcelona Spain. is not a pipe dream sold in books like Energetic and OU do. everyone of those so called free energy researchers do NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE FREE ENERGY DEVICE BUILT thus are preying on the uninformed raping them of their hard earned money selling NOTHING but pipe dreams and trinkets. the people that have exposed these ruthless pieces of crap as being a fraud were immediately barred from the forums to protect there cash cow fraudulent claims.
I don't want your money, all i want you to do is build this device and be free of the shackles of bondage place on us by crooked, murdering, greedy Corporate Controlled Government thugs.
I like Chris post freely, real Empirical data backed by solid research.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 11:59:56 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 21 February 2018
Just like the movie the Matrix.
I can only show you the door, it is you that has to walk through it.
i can post all the info i have gathered through my research and even if it was sent to you directly from God himself it doesn't amount to a hill of beans if you are not willing to build it or do the research yourselves to find out how this device works.
sitting in a movie theater watching a good movie is exciting but it does not tell me how the movie was made.
I had a really evil and cheep father and to this day i still dislike him but the lesson he taught me was invaluable. he said if i wanted a bicycle i had to get a job and buy it. well since i was in the fourth grade there was no way i could get a job as most people do not take a nine year old seriously so i began to acquire bicycle parts from the dump. over the next month i had so many parts i built my own bicycle and painted it myself. i was so proud of my accomplishments but the fact of the matter was i had no clue how to build or repair a bicycle until i jumped in with both feet. sure i messed things up but eventually i got it right and was peddling my ass off with the rest of the kids on the block.
soon after that all the kids in the block came to me to repair their bicycle because they could not and their parents were pissed they tore it up.
long story short don't under underestimate your abilities to build something as the biggest hurdle to your accomplishments is YOU.
this site has a wealth of information and is free for the taking and all that is required is that you build it, prove it , then show it, to the rest of the world. then when you are done drop a line and say thanks for the true path.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:01:35 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 22 February 2018   Here is another view of the vector fields in relation to each other always 90 degrees from them selves. second pic is the circular E Field around the secondary created by the reducing primary as it is pushed out of the secondary. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:02:10 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 26 February 2018
By the time the true direction of electron flow was discovered, the nomenclature of “positive” and “negative” had already been so well established in the scientific community that no effort was made to change it, although calling electrons “positive” would make more sense in referring to “excess” charge. You see, the terms “positive” and “negative” are human inventions, and as such have no absolute meaning beyond our own conventions of language and scientific description. Franklin could have just as easily referred to a surplus of charge as “black” and a deficiency as “white,” in which case scientists would speak of electrons having a “white” charge (assuming the same incorrect conjecture of charge position between wax and wool).
He also discovered that only one of these charges can move while the other is stationary. He didn't know which so he made a guess and said the current flow from + to - which he had a 50/50 chance and got it wrong. Then in 1900, J.J. Thompson theory of an electron and proved electrons are negative and that they flow to a positive charge. In reality, - flow to + Physicists use: - flow to + Engineeers use: + flow to -. to this day an electron has still not been proven.
Why engineers use a wrong assumption? Becuase during 1900's they didn't change their textbooks. So we are stuck with a wrong convection current.
However, because we tend to associate the word “positive” with “surplus” and “negative” with “deficiency,” the standard label for electron charge does seem backward. Because of this, many engineers decided to retain the old concept of electricity with “positive” referring to a surplus of charge, and label charge flow (current) accordingly. This became known as conventional flow notation:
yes i do agree that the pressure flow is from - to + but i personally do not believe there is such a thing as positive or negative charged particles anywhere in our universe as i do believe in a few things Ken Wheeler says and that is eather pressure modalities. the so called negative is actual charging to a higher pressure potential (counter space) creating heat and positive is radiative discharging (Space) to less pressure which is radiated to cold in an never ending cycle.
Just something to consider and keep fresh on your mind is the direction the actual currant is flowing, the spin direction of the rotating fields and the pressure between the primaries required for a specific output.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:02:51 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 28 February 2018
electrocute;
I do agree it was a crude experiment but quite an effective one and you hit the underlying principle of the Figuera device right between the eyes. ie bulls eye.
the amount of pressure between the magnets directly correlates to the amount of field lines present thus the output of the device. the only difference between your experiment and the Figuera device is that Figuera used a very orderly sweeping of the field line collision back and fourth over the secondary just clearing the secondary then to the other side.
in the experiment i suggested is basically the same thing except the fact that you would be sweeping the magnets in an orderly fashion and your experiment it was a one time deal but again quite effective.
I applaud you in your efforts and thank you for joining me in this journey as it has been an uphill battle for four years trying to get people to build this device and you are well on your way to a fine build thus joining me in this great adventure.
just be aware that when dealing with electromagnets that the pressure between them is quite higher and precautions should be taken. all the info i have posted and my video on the front page will get you to a working device plus i have other videos about to be posted on youtube to explain the workings of the device.
if you have any question please feel free to PM me but i would rather you ask in the thread as it may be possible to answer other peoples question they may of had as my sole intention is to spread this device to the world.
Congrats my friend, i hope you enjoyed my video.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:31:31 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 04 March 2018
Electrocute;
Now can you just imagine a pair of high power electromagnets performing the very same. what you will get is a rise in voltage very quick much higher than the original voltage used to excite the electromagnets in the first place.
the Figuera device is actually a very simple device but there is a lot of things happening at the same time especially with the controller part G that has many functions.
i have been working everyday well over a week now and have two days off before i have to go back to finish the house exterior. i will be posting my rebuilds of my core that got damaged and it is my goal to have it self running by May or June with an output of 1500 watts as i am just using two core pairs.
again i am glad you decided to research the device and prove to yourself the validity and operation. it is amazing that something so simple as taking an opposing electromagnet down at the same time as one rising can double the output.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:32:17 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 05 March 2018
Electrocute; the second to the last paragraph is very correct.
In the Figuera device the primary electromagnets are never taken to zero. the reason is like trying to use AC in the Figuera device is that if you take the electromagnets down to zero it will take to long of time to build up the magnetic fields to proper field strength as it has to plow through the resistance and flipping the magnetic domains thus loosing coherency between the primary electromagnets which equates to loss of induction from the reducing electromagnet. even in a standard generator the field magnets are on full all the time. Figuera did NOT reduce the electromagnets down past 1/3 to 1/2 which allowed his electromagnets to remain in coherency of E fields doubling the output. the time it takes to reduce the electromagnet to 1/3 then to full power and reducing the other at the same time is so small that the Primary electromagnet E fields remain in total coherency as the reducing electromagnets E field is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet E field.
According to Maxwell and Faraday all that is needed to produce electricity is a rise or fall of magnetic field strength like that of a standard generator but in the Figuera device to keep the two primary opposing fields coherent he only reduce them just enough to clear the secondary then back up to full potential reducing the other side at the same time.
what this did was allow the field magnets to retain 80 to 90% of there field strength and still get the required reduction and rise of magnetic field strength to induce currant flow just the same as a standard generator but in a stationary scenario.
i posted a graph of the window of currant required to keep the primary electromagnets in coherency. part G allows this to happen when the brush rotates around adding and subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to the system allowing an orderly rise and fall of currant through the primary electromagnets. part G also stores and releases energy into the system which aids the rising electromagnet to counter act the potential drop of the rising side of part G. part G also splits the feed into two and keeps them separate by using two North face magnetic fields allowing them to remain separate but in total unison keeping the primary electromagnets in total coherency. yes there is always some resistance in part G as it never reduces it's fields in the core to zero just like the primaries thus a magnetic field is always present reducing or rising of the currant flow to the primaries.
so as you can see part G CAN NOT be replaced with electronics or at least with no less than a truck load of parts.
in the magnet test you performed you basically took the Figuera device to one side thus dropping the two opposing sets through the coil which was the rising and lowering of two electromagnets one time. in the Figuera device you do this repeatedly back and forth or rise and fall opposite of each other in an orderly fashion only reducing one to just clear the secondary then back up to full potential.
I hope this helps in your understanding of the device. if you or anyone still have some confusion, i will try to explain it the best i can in other forms of description.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:32:53 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 05 March 2018
The cost of making the Figuera device electronically is prohibitively expensive as i know as i am pursuing this avenue also with the original build.
the cost of the electronics benefits only the companies that make the electronic parts thus will drain your wallet in a heart beat and make them even richer.
the cost of the original is way, way less expensive and most likely last way longer but then again that choice falls squarely on the builder.
Marathonman
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