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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:33:22 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 06 March 2018
To achieve the goal of double the output as you and I have done with our demo the primaries have to be in complete unison and can NEVER be taken below half way or induction from the reducing electromagnet will cease thus the output will drop to the rising electromagnet. by not reducing them below half way the pressure is maintained between them as does the field line pressure.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:34:08 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 11 March 2018
Sorry for the late post as i am working everyday for weeks playing jungle Jim on a two tier scaffold. ..... and i am tired.
The experiments performed by myself and electrocute can be performed by anyone who reads this thread. in the case of the magnets or electromagnets opposing fields the field lines are compressed at the collision point doubling the field lines present. when dropped through the coil the first magnet through the coil will act as it is being reduced and the second magnet will act as it is being increased doubling the output of the E field thus the voltage from the coil or secondary
in the Figuera device the electromagnets are doing the exact same thing except the primary electromagnets are raised and lowered in complete unison from part G. the reducing electromagnet's are reduced to just clear the secondary the increased to full potential as the other primary electromagnet is reduced thus the field intensity of the electromagnets remain very high.
the opposing fields in part G will cause the inductors to remain completely separate but in complete unison all while raising and lowering the currant supplied to the primary electromagnets.
all the said action of the magnets and the Figuera electromagnets are in complete compliance with Faraday's Laws of induction and CAN NOT be denied.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:34:43 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 14 March 2018
I still am amazed why people can not get the idea through their head of part G recycling or reusing power. since part G is basically a dymamic inductor like all inductors that release energy from their magnetic field into the system when the currant drops and is stored in the magnetic field when the currant rises.
since we have a positive brush that rotates around the cylinder making contact with the winding's the currant coming from the primaries will cause a north>< North opposing magnetic fields allowing the two sides of the brush to act as independent inductors. as the brush rotates the amount of winding's and core material are linking and unlinking to the system sides. as the process of linking, meaning the brush is rotating away from set S winding's around part G are being added to that half of the system which will cause more opposition to currant flow as more winding's will have a larger magnetic field (reverse EMF) associated with that half of part G causing the currant to drop thus the magnetic field will release that potential into the system with the added potential from the reducing electromagnet EMF produced while it is retreating forward biasing part G and giving the rising electromagnet a boost.
the process of increasing the magnetic field in set N causes a potential drop in part G as with any inductor as the amount of winding's decreases in part G the field is increasing thus the potential drop. the decreasing side of part G off sets this potential drop and gives the rising electromagnet an added boost at that time. the secondary is their to replace system losses from heat and wire.
part G is an inductor that is in a dynamic state but it still stores and releases energy into the system just like an ordinary inductor would.
It sure is nice having a day off.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:36:21 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 16 March 2018  I am sorry that the picture is rather trashy but i just wanted to try to get the point across that part G stores and releases energy into the system every half turn. in the pic set S is releasing magnetic field energy into the system to feed set N as the winding's i have been talking about are magnetically linking to that half of part G causing a drop in currant so that half is releasing some of that energy into the system and set N is storing a magnetic field for the next half cycle because the winding's are less as the brush rotates. this will cause a potential drop in that half of part G as any inductor would so the reducing side is releasing energy into the system to off set that potential drop along with the reducing primary EMF produced when it is retreating thus both causes an amplification to the rising side of part G and the rising electromagnet. The secondary feed back is there to replace losses in the process and will replace the losses over time as plowing it full of currant will kill the process and the unit will cease to function. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:37:31 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 17 March 2018
Another thing antimony is that once the rotary device is built it should be slightly ground with a surface grinder to get a true flat surface. the person that shared with me used a surface grinder at the speed of the actual brush rotated at meaning at 3600 rpm. the result was a superior flat surface with almost zero sparking and the wear on the brush was amazingly small.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:37:55 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 19 March 2018
Another experiment that i conducted i ordered two powerful magnets that were 1x1x2 and it was magnetized through the two inch. i attached the opposing magnets on a paint stir stick with some fairly good pressure between them. i then wound me a coil like electrocute did using pvc but in my case i mounted the coil to a block as to be non moving.
I then attached the coil to my meter and the paint stick to a sawzall blade with electrical tape. squeezing the trigger on the sawzall i was able to hit over 20 volts continuous output.
I then wound some small opposing electromagnets attached to the same paint stick with a 12 volt supply and managed to get the same results with twice the output of just one electromagnet.
It is test like this that prove the validity of the Figuera device and that the two electromagnets are compressing the the field lines much higher then with one a lone.
any one of these tests can be done by anyone, anywhere and anytime and proves the validity of the Figuera device and it's function hands down that can not be denied or debunked by anyone.
This device Clemente Figuera built was a real device that worked and worked very well. of course the banksters tried to hide it and let it rot. i am here to see that it will not and the world needs to know about this device.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:39:25 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 19 March 2018
If you want to explain it with math that would compliment my posts then by all means have at it as our sole intention is for us to get this information out there to the masses. maybe another point of view is a good thing.
the last time i checked we were on the same side, at least i hope we are.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:40:08 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 20 March 2018
Figuera Function,
When winding your primaries always remember the primaries are not controlling the currant, that is the job of part G so the primaries are to be wound specifically as electromagnets which is not according to present day teachings but the secondary is wound according to present day teachings as all standard genies are. the primaries are opposing with one reducing and the other rising from the actions of the dynamic inductor part G brush rotation. as the reducing electromagnet is reducing the rising electromagnet is pushing it out of the core at the same time so as it is shoved into it's own core it will produce an EMF equal to the reduction. this EMF combined with the reducing side of part G's at the same time is releasing potential back into the system as any reducing inductor would. both potentials combined off set the rising side of part G as any inductor rising in currant will have a potential drop across it as it is storing the potential in a magnetic field for the next half cycle so the amplification from both sourses of potential off set the drop in potential giving a boost to the rising electromagnet.
as the reducing and rising electromagnet will always have pressure between them from the opposing magnetic fields the reducing electromagnet E field direction is reversed to match that of the rising electromagnet causing the square of the two output combined.
as the secondary and the load starts to draw currant (closed system) a second opposing field in the secondary will form opposing the initial field and it is this field the primaries opposing field push from side to side. the primary electromagnets are reduced to just clear the secondary then back up to full potential as the other side is reduced.
since part G is a dynamic inductor using the magnetic field to curtail currant that is used in a different form from present day teachings a load has to be present in order for part G to work. the self induction can only take place if the device is in operation and can not be tested with an induction meater as the readings will be null. part G uses self inductance ( reverse magnetic field) amplified by the iron core to cause a rise and fall of currant as the brush rotates magnetically linking and unlinking to the system as the brush rotates causing an orderly rise and fall of currant. as in any inductor when the currant is rising the inductor will be storing the potential in the magnetic field and as the currant is reduced the inductor will release potential into the system. as the windings are linking to the system the span of the magnetic field and circuit will be larger thus the reverse EMF produced will be larger causing a reduction in currant flow thus the magnetic field will release that potential into the system at the same time. the reverse is true for the rising side of part G. just try doing that with no less than a truck load of electronic parts.
as you can read the Figuera device is always kept out of balance seeking equilibrium in which it never happens. it is in a state of constant increase and decrease and never allowed to get to a steady state as that would kill the device. basically it is a pressure pump and part G is the pressure regulator that stores and releases potential as does the primaries. the secondary feed back is there to replace the IR2 losses and the rising electromagnet from reduction and it does this over time just like a standard generator does feeding the input until the output is higher than the excitation and the load.
once the initial polarization of the secondaries from the primaries takes place they part ways and the primaries are the motive force that exerts motion into the secondary provided the secondary is a closed system with resistance of it's own.... ie a load.
And yes i did read your post enjoykin, it just took me reading it twice to understand what you were talking about. and thanks for the explanation.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:40:28 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 20 March 2018
Basically what you will be doing is reducing the primaries without reducing the field presented to the secondary. the reducing electromagnet is only reduced in relation to the secondary not to it's self or the other primary. this will cause the field of the primaries to retain a large portion of it's field (80 to 90%) at all times thus the output of the secondary will remain very high.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:42:52 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018   Here is a pic of the variables of part G that one must consider when building part G. the second pic is a graph that part G will be built to and operate in a specific window of currant rise and fall. if you are using say 1 amp to power your primaries at full potential then part G must be wound to give a currant reduction according to the ratio (size) of your primaries and your secondaries and also the type of core material used and winding count ect. just remember that if the reduction of your primaries are to much the pressure between them will drop and induction will fall to that of just the rising electromagnet. Part G's core must be closed core as an open core or straight core will not give the proper feed back and retention of magnetic fields used in currant reduction of the primaries and the release of the magnetic field potential into the system. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:43:28 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018
If an inductor is designed so that any one of these factors may be varied at will, its inductance will correspondingly vary. Variable inductors are usually made by providing a way to vary the number of wire turns in use at any given time, or by varying the core material or both.
that is exactly what Figuera did in his part G by varying the amount of winding's magnetically linking and unlinking to the system he added or subtracted core material and winding's as the brush rotated keeping them separate with N><N fields at the brush. by changing these two parameters increased and decreased the size of the inductor this allowed him to vary each inductor on each side of the brush separately while remaining in complete unity and pressure between the primaries is maintained at all times.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:44:42 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 22 March 2018 Here is what i am working on right now. i am designing a new brush holder to connect to my motor as the old one was smashed out of balance and can not be repaired.  the picture is the design i have in mind. the center shaft and hole is what will connect to the motor with set screws. the second larger shaft is for slip rigs and the large bottom piece with the groves in it will house the brush or brushes and on the other side a counter weight. the frame that will screw down to the brush holder will allow me to adjust the diameter of the brush rotation in and out for proper currant rise and reduction. once the proper rise and reduction is found i can attach more set screws to make it secure. Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:45:53 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 23 March 2018  And here is the frame i was referring to. there is one on top and on bottom with two halves (one not shown) that can slide over one another that would allow it to be adjusted to any and all builds of part G and adapted in a few minutes. this would allow you to dial in the exact currant drop that is needed for your specific build. out for a larger currant window and in for less of a currant window. the black dots are the screw holes and the square is the actual brush supported on top and on bottom. with this idea it will have around 3 1/2 to 4 inches of adjustment and to me it can't get any better than that. if any one has any better ideas please feel free to voice the idea.
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:46:24 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 24 March 2018
In the Figuera device he used DC to excite his primaries just like a standard generator does to excite it's N&S fields not ac that some people seam to think. if one was to use AC there would be all kinds of phasing issues to deal with and this is unacceptable and a royal pain in the backside. not only would that cause hysteresis and eddy currants in the primaries and this is detrimental to it's magnetic field output. since the time it takes to plow through the resistance of the wire and the flipping of the magnetic domains are far to long to respond in any reasonable manor. thus would be darn near useless in the FIguera device.
by using DC in his device it eliminated all hysteresis and eddy currants but also the phasing issue involved in using AC. the secondary has these effects that is why he split the cores up the way he did. using DC allowed him to get the highest possible magnetic field from his primaries without all the said draw backs. by using DC and winding them specifically as electromagnets he was able to attain the highest magnetic field possible with the fastest rise in magnetic strength.
since he used DC and did not reduce his primaries down below half way this technic allowed the primaries to be reduced and increased to full potential with very short response time keeping a very orderly rise and fall of the primaries to remain in complete unison throughout this action.
just think about that for a while with some common sense. if one was to try to use AC in their primaries, the time it took to rip through the resistance and to flip all the magnetic domains which would never happen because before the all the domains got flipped the AC is traveling the other way so the resistance and the flipping of the domains starts all over again. so what you would end up with is a rather weak electromagnet that gets hot from eddy currants and hysteresis. the time involved to do this process is crazy slow and coherency between the Electric fields would be lost and induction would fall to that of just the rising electromagnet.
now with that common sense still flowing by using DC that never reverses the Electromagnets do not have to deal with eddy currants or any hysteresis ill effects nor any phasing issues to contend with. when the DC electromagnet is brought up to proper field strength and reduced to just clear the secondary then back to full potential the time frame of that action is so minute that the primary Electric fields are able to remain in complete coherency. thus induction is at it's maximum and the output is the square of the two primary electromagnets compared to two plain bucking fields (NON COHERENT). very little magnetic domains are flipped in this process once it is at full potential because all Figuera did was reduce the currant to just clear the secondary then back to full potential which does not flip the domains like AC would. the electromagnets remain cool and have very fast response time.
in the process of splitting the DC currant both primary electromagnets remain in phase at all times and are just reduced in relation to the secondary and not them selves. since the wall at the collision point of both opposing electromagnets will be quite large the reduction of currant to get the primaries the sweeping action across the secondary will be quite small. not to mention the opposing field of the secondary once currant starts to flow in the secondary and the load will be sandwiched in between those two primary electromagnet. refer to the squirrel cage motor action and apply it to this scenario.
the primary electromagnets cause the E fields but it is the relative motion of the primaries being reduced and increased with the opposing secondary fields between them that induces currant flow into the secondary and the load. once the polarization takes place and currant begins to flow the primaries and the secondaries part ways and it is the primaries becomes the motive force that exerts motion into the secondary provided the circuit is closed with resistance of it's own. ( ie a load)
thus in compience according to Faraday's laws of induction ANY rise or FALL of the magnetic field will cause induction no matter how small.
Marathonman
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Post by creasysee on Aug 26, 2019 12:47:02 GMT -6
Marathonman posted this 25 March 2018
Continuing on the common sense theme part G will become the power supply of the device after the initial start of the device then the power supply can be taken away. every half rotation of part G it stores and releases energy into the system each half of part G almost acting independent but feeding each other. when one side is storing energy in the form of a magnetic field the other side is releasing energy into the system from it's magnetic field. in the next cycle the reverse is true, the previous rising side will be releasing energy into the system and the reducing side will be storing into the magnetic field.
as the magnetic field is released into the system from the reducing side of part G the reducing primaries magnetic field is reduced also releasing that part of the reduced magnetic field into part G. both sources of potential are combined causing a forward biasing of part G similar to a mag amp. this amplification off sets the rising side of part G potential drop as any inductor when currant is rising will store into it's magnetic field causing a potential drop on that side of part G. both sources of potential combines off setting this potential drop causing an amplification to the rising electromagnet boosting it's output. these magnetic fields are also used in the manipulation of the currant. with each half rotation of the brush each side of the brush will act as independent inductors with the length of the inductor changing with the brush movement adding or subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to that half of the inductor causing a linear rise and fall of currant.
once the fields are up to working conditions the currant draw of the device will drop as per Sparky Sweet and the only power needed will be the replacement of the IR2 losses and the rising electromagnet to full potential which is small since the primary is only reduce to just clear the secondary then back to full potential.
just like a standard generator a small portion of the output is fed to it's exciting field to replace the losses which are inherent in all man's devices as nothing is 100%. just like a standard generator once the magnetic fields are up to working conditions the currant draw is reduced to that of just the IR2 losses to maintain the fields.
the inducing side and the induced side are actually separate system and the only power used from the inducing side to the induced is to polarize the secondaries. once the secondaries currant starts flowing they part ways and almost act independent of each other. when the currant flows in the output according to the Lenz law an opposing field will form opposing the original currant flow and this opposite field is what is pushed side to side from the primaries across the circular Electric field that is formed around the secondaries from the actions of the primaries.
in a standard generator the exciting fields are on all the time and as the rotor rotates through the magnetic fields it encounters different strengths of magnetic field and the closer it gets to the exciters the stronger the field gets thus the farther it gets from the exciters the weaker the field gets. so in the FIguera device since the electromagnets are stationary with no moving parts in order to get the rise and fall of magnetic field strength he had to raise and lower the currant to the primary electromagnets to mimic this process and that is where part G comes into play inducing and orderly rise and fall of currant.
all said actions of a standard generator and the Figuera stationary generator are the laws of induction set forth by Faraday and violate not one as any and i mean any increase of decrease in magnetic field strength will cause an EMF in the output and the Figuera device does just that.
Marathonman
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