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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2021 6:03:51 GMT -6
*Thread moved from builders thread* Dear Marathonman,
I ended up here by chance and I want to add a few more things to your project! I think it's very nice to make your replicas with the Figurela generator, and you've put a lot of effort into it! Usually I have been dealing with radio frequency engineering in Russian forums for several years. By chance, while reading about magnetism, I came across one of your explanations and yes, it is difficult to understand the theory of free energy because there is a lot in physics, especially the problem is the closed circuit that NEVER works, BUT after one Time if you everyday studys the Free energy is this ok. I like to say: - All free energy devices have a common global scheme: Batteries (mostly 40-50 volts), high-voltage DC pulses, high frequency, (very rapid stopping of the DC pulses), rectification and clean energy. Customizing the systems is possible as hell. - All free energy devices have special materials such as Metglas, Nanoperm ... One important point to be aware of is that when you short circuit there may be residual energy in the coils. This is the time it takes for your brush to move to the next point of wire G in your Commutator. One effect of Coils that i like to say is hier you will understand this I know see the Link:
If you manage to short the coils BEFORE the brush hits the next contact to induce the coils on the commutator, the remaining energy will remain a powerful pulse of energy! Because of this, I think the Komuttator should resemble Fiugurela's design and not Patrick Kelly's anyway. BUT it's not complete, you need to have a bottom side to hook up the secondary coils so that when the brush doesn't make contact for induction contacts (the break) the brush at the bottom of this short circuit puts energy into the capacitor along the when the top brush again the induction touches and so on ... these are 2 different energy aspects I am sure your 300w resistor uses less energy and you can self drive the Motor but need time for Capacitor loaded only after the Capacitor are Loaded you can switch the Power for Motor. The 2-circuit energy collection that I suggested to you, if you want even more energy this used many many Inventors in his Free energy Units IS, you can connect one end of the line to the capacitor DC Plus + the other end DC - on Capacitor use a diode, and a regulating capacitor (as in frequency engineering) and connect the wire in the earth, tune the frequency on the capacitor to earth and hopefully you will see the result. At this time your Project have only one closed Loop in your energy, this solution so you have 2 Energieinputs no closed Loops and the power from Earth (what is negative DC)
greetings Goran
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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2021 6:06:22 GMT -6
*Thread moved from builders thread*
Greetings Goran,
Yes i do agree the system is a closed system, well actually two separate closed systems. the exciting side and the generating side. the good thing is the exciting side influences the secondary side but not in reverse ie... the secondary to the primaries. there is only soft coupling on the reducing electromagnet only. while i do agree with your assumption of your system i am just to tied up with the Figuera device and others to quite now or take on another project. i have not reviewed your video just yet as i am busy with the ranch but i will review tonight.
if you feel you are to pursue this device you can by all means create another thread on the subject as this is for the Figuera device Builders only please move this to general discussion.
PS. i have taken so long on this thread as i am trying to procure additional machinery to aide in the development of this device. so sorry for the long delay.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Jun 16, 2021 16:44:09 GMT -6
I will finally be working on my primaries this weekend along with the mechanical, mechanical version that move opposing magnets back and forth over the coil same as Figuera. i have built a jig for the small 1-5/8 inch coil then i will encase in epoxy to secure to a base while the magnets are swept back and forth. will update as i finish.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by greywolf47 on Jun 16, 2021 17:18:04 GMT -6
I have a friend of mine in Texas that has an electric motor rewinding and repair shop and I am going to tap his expertise about winding the stator coils on a non steel core and keeping all other parts the same. I know that the motor will NOT run in this configuration, but when turned by a prime mover, will it produce more electrical current that the power consumed to turn it??
All the electrical guides that I have in my collection show a simple generator with loops of wire that pass through the flux lines of a permanent magnet to create an electric current. Yet ALL generators built today are built with iron cores that cause a massive back EMF when turned by the prime mover.
I will post a response after I hear back from my friend.
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Post by Marathonman on Jun 17, 2021 7:14:24 GMT -6
Interesting greywolf47, i would be interested in hearing from him on inductances and inductance loop count and such.
yes, the real Achilles' heel of the standard generator "THE LENZ LAW" in action when the current is drawn from the secondary causing repulsion and and attraction when approaching and receding. it is funny because if not from this action a standard generator would be self sustaining as the self supply is at 10 % of the output.
hence the reason for the Figuera device to be self sustaining being absent of that rotation and thus the Lenz law not applicable to the generator side to some extent.
also an overunity device uses a powerful magnet turned 90 degrees to the standard usage that minimizes the attraction force.
yes do please keep informed,
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by greywolf47 on Jun 29, 2021 14:20:41 GMT -6
Still hve not heard back from my friend in Texas.
I have made some interesting observations about a copper wire loop turning inside of a uniform magnetic flux field. The flux flows from North to South and in a uniform flux field the flux lines are uniformly spaced apart. When the loop of wire is at the center of the flux, it travels in a much shorter arc to cross one flux line than it does when it is turning nearly parallel to the flux lines. The difference in travel time is nearly 2 1/2 times as long near the parallel movement as to when nearmy
perpendicular to the flux lines.
If the timing on the commutator is uniform, are we missing a key element in the changing flux density to create the needed sine wave pulse to create AC from DC?
My commutator is built with 32 evenly spaced contacts with 2 carbon brushes making contact at 180 degrees opposite with those contacts joined to give a single pulse to the primary coils. I may need to rebuild it to reflect the longer duration and the variance in dwell time.
Should the timing on the commutator be of variable duration to reflect the difference in the time to cross the flux line?
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Post by Marathonman on Jun 29, 2021 16:21:34 GMT -6
The timing on the brush rotation is not uniform or at least it shouldn't be. as i have been saying for quite a while now the ends are on for a substantial time longer which is when the secondary Lenz law field is in the gap between them. this pause at the end causes an inductive roll off which causes a nice sine wave form. the secondary feed back coincides with the set N or set S peak and also the release from the reducing side of the system. the peak of all inputs causes an amplification to the rising primaries to replace the loss in pressure from the reducing primaries to get movement into the secondary..
the secondary feed back shows charge separation but the brushes make direct contact to the winding's as it rotates.
one must not forget toroids were not around yet so the core was an E. I. core designed and built by Zeiss. which was a straight core with one long winding which in it's circular rotation will have the ends for four or five times longer then that of the one's in the middle. this will cause an inductive roll off and a nice sine wave output. also do not forget the 20 hp motor that keeps the timing in check. the active inductor controller will have voltage lead current by 90 degrees. the motor will have current lead voltage by 90 degrees which will cancel each other out keeping the timing in check.
stay on him, maybe he will answer soon.
Regards, Marathonmam
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Post by Marathonman on Jul 8, 2021 7:27:17 GMT -6
I had forgotten to inform everyone that i have been on vacation and will be for another week. will resume when back at ranch. Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2021 7:33:51 GMT -6
Thread moved from Tech thread
Good afternoon Marathonman. Thanks for posting this. Have you gotten this to work or any of the other Figuera designs to work? Have you seen this design; the brush and iron core set-up are a little different than yours? We are moving off grid and wanted to build one of these, but I have zero experience with electrical engineering other than the Engineering Physics II course I took 10 years ago, but it did not cover anything more than theory and, as you mentioned, did not cover this type physics. Please contact me at josh.milks@gmail.com. I'd love to stay posted on any design you can get working and if you would be kind enough to share material lists and a build video or instructions. Also, could setting this in an orgonite grid, inside a pyramid, or possibly next to a giant (orgonite?) obelisk, focusing on raising the atmospheric energy (or piezoelectric) that may be observed as "ghost forces"? Also, what if we enhanced the design by placing the primaries in a vacuum and the secondary in a water chamber, or vice versa (primaries in water and secondary in vacuum)? If the water chamber can store piezoelectric energy from an obelisk or an orgonite grid, maybe the secondary will be amplified? Lastly, do you know anything about the Donnie Watts Generator? Here's the build - Or any of the others on Patrick Kelly's Youtube channel?
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Post by Admin on Aug 13, 2021 8:05:12 GMT -6
Hello everyone,
I must apologize for my absence as i was not only on an extended vacation but am leaving the ranch i am presently residing at due to a highly toxic environment of bad behavior. seems new member"s are highly manipulating and pathological liars. it seems the owners are extremely fooled by them in which i am not. so long story short i am moving and will be settled in over the next week. it will take a week to get the lab set back up and begin or resume my advancement of this device.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by greywolf47 on Aug 16, 2021 19:21:33 GMT -6
Sorry to hear that you are having to move. Bummer! Hope you find a new place with GOOD people to support you. Wish you were my neighbor and d reportcould share my wonderful 1500 square foot shop. I am truely blessed. Good luck with your new place. Look forward to hearing a good report about your new place soon. Don't be discouraged about the setback. Greywolf47
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Post by Marathonman on Aug 21, 2021 21:01:13 GMT -6
Late reply, so busy with remodels of multiple houses. Oh do not worry about me being discouraged, the environment i was in was highly toxic to me as in bad behavior so yes the new place is better but much smaller. yes in reality we would probably crack this nut very fast working together. i am having to build a large U shape bench on top of chest of drawers to accommodate what i need. small but efficient indeed. on top of all this i am building a four wheel bicycle buggy running on 29" rims @ 48 volt 58-59 ah. when the nut is cracked power supply will be replaced.
thanks for the concern. Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Sept 2, 2021 8:39:34 GMT -6
Quote; "These secondaries magnetic flux collapses when the primary charge is suddenly stopped by the timer. That spike in voltage varies with the number of turns in each one."
Absolutely contrary to the patent that clearly implies a make-before-break scenario making contact of two at a time as it rotates. the patent clearly does not mention field collapsing or voltage spikes at any time through out all the patents from Figuera or Buforn.
also the fact that when the field in the active inductor controller is allowed to collapse BEMF will occur which will destroy any such chances of the device achieving self sustainment. the whole idea behind it was to constantly, with an orderly fashion, have the current increase and decrease in the active inductor controller and the primaries to achieve on going induction of the secondaries.
your scenario clearly destroys this operation thus rendering the device basically useless. i personally think you need to rethink your approach to the Figuera device and stop shooting yourself in the foot.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by greywolf47 on Sept 2, 2021 18:29:46 GMT -6
Even WITH a make before break commutator, when the brush moves and loses contact with the previous contact point, there will be a SUDDEN stop in the current flow to that induction coil in part 'R'. There are 4 induction coil primaries to the 'N' coils and 4 induction coil primaries to the 'S' coils. The wires that go from the 'R' coils apparatus and go to the commutator 'G' are grounding wires for each primary coil in the unit 'R'. In the drawing, every other coil is a primary with a secondary between and actually wound OVER the primary. This allows for an increase in voltage depending on the number of turns.
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Post by Marathonman on Sept 3, 2021 10:11:34 GMT -6
Wrong! There will never be a sudden stop in current flow with make before break. sorry but you are sadly misinformed in this aspect of the patent. current will continue to flow to the next contact point uninterrupted. Part G active inductor controller is one continuous wound inductor not separate coils and as being such it will not suddenly stop yet continue to the next contact point. when the circuit increases, potential is stored, when reduced in size it releases potential back into the system. you are misinterpreting the patent that not only does "R" not exist but G is the active inductor controller. "R" is just a representation of some kind of resistance of the current flow. another thing is you seem to be failing to realize that the drawing associated with the patent is not the actual device as it even states it is just a drawing for the understanding of the device and function ONLY. Part G active inductor controller in the patent is shown only at the contact points or rather the brush rotation contact points and the rest of the core is not shown. this is why it looks like a commutator thus a misrepresentation or understanding of the patent.
the whole idea is to get an orderly rise and fall of current flow "uninterrupted" to the primaries and in the process of running part G "the active inductor controller" becomes the power supply and can even be seen as an amplifier as all three sources of power while being reduced "Half of part G, one set of primaries and the secondary feed back" actually amplify the signal within part G forward biasing the rising primaries.
never is the field allowed to collaps between the two sets of primaries because induction will fail as the pressure between then will be non existent. all Figuera did was shift the two opposing fields side to side allowing either of the two opposing fluxes to occupy the secondary. when part G spins there is never NO sudden stop of current flow just an orderly rise and fall of current all while storing and releasing magnetic field potential. thus part G becomes the power supply for the device.
your lack of proper facts and function of this device is rather frightening to say the least.
Regards, Marathonman
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