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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 16:00:09 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 16:22:31 GMT -6
Allan
your statement is correct for situations where is one core and opposing current in individual windings
We have one inductor one winding and one current that travels from brush to primaries
Inductive part of G controls max current into primaries On pictures above you see clearly my inductors with visible tapping from it
It is irrelevant what is your understanding of device but if you would read MM posts carefully perhaps you would be able to see little differences from Main Street education given in scoops today
This is exactly the same with me when I started with Figuera I did not understand principles But I have build samples and results start making sense
Just please be opened mine and try
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 16:32:45 GMT -6
One more information this is output from secondary as per Figuera patent you can observe sinusoid wave att 50 hz I was testing part G on small scale with one secondary coil there was no over unity present
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Post by allanv on Aug 30, 2020 16:44:11 GMT -6
Allan your statement is correct for situations where is one core and opposing current in individual windings We have one inductor one winding and one current that travels from brush to primaries Inductive part of G controls max current into primaries On pictures above you see clearly my inductors with visible tapping from it It is irrelevant what is your understanding of device but if you would read MM posts carefully perhaps you would be able to see little differences from Main Street education given in scoops today This is exactly the same with me when I started with Figuera I did not understand principles But I have build samples and results start making sense Just please be opened mine and try Hi, Is any one getting a really good output enough to power a house?
If two DC currents are flowing together in the same direction a magnetic field will be present but no out put. A continuous current change will produce more or less flux and induce an output with opposition and then it will lessen.
Oh well there is more reading to do.
All the best,
Allan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 16:44:29 GMT -6
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Post by allanv on Aug 30, 2020 17:23:29 GMT -6
Hi,
I am getting there slowly, I have been on the overunity.com site and didn't get a good reception.
I eventually said their setup would never work ever, whoops!
What the drawing shows is some missing tapping on the other side from the brush. I do not think modulating current in the same direction works, the flux creation is lazy and slow and input equals output.
Transformers react instantaneously. With DC flowing in two windings on a common core in opposite directions it is also instantaneous. No inductance only wire resistance is seen and this will change the flux.
AC is not necessary as an input because when the sine wave graph is drawn with two currents slightly phase shifted it can be seen. Voltage is maximum with no current and voltage zero with maximum current in two windings. They are equal and opposite.
Draw it out and it does reveal a few things.
Magnetism is not present at maximum current flow because this is where they change. It starts with small flow at one polarity and then proceeds past maximum to then produce magnetism of the opposite polarity. Both these currents are going in opposite directions but when they are equal and opposite no flux is produced.
If the current input is constant a modulating setup would need to draw more in one winding and less in the other in a transformer type interaction between them and on a common core.
I have been searching around but there is a lot of reading to do. If you are able to lead me to the best bits that would be good.
regards,
Allan
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Post by Marathonman on Aug 30, 2020 17:46:45 GMT -6
Skyrob; that link pic posted is the Figuera device in a nut shell. (Your welcome for the graph everyone) as the brush rotates or electronic switching what is happening is the winding count for each side is changing as is the inductance per the amount or current. since we are giving DC frequency from the rise and fall of current flow as we now fall under inductive reactance which we should all know controls current flow. Allenv; Sorry but you could not be farther from the truth if you tried. two negative feeds coming into a positive brush that is moving it's contact point will in fact have on going inductances of both feeds, one increasing, one reducing, with opposing fields at the brush that separate the one inductor into two halves. the video below is one of our members Creasysee in the electronic thread that listened and followed my advice and this is the culmination of my research for the last 6 years. if you go on his web site what will you read below this video? *Special thanks to Marathonman* imagine that ! Web site linkyour perception of magnetism and an inductor needs to change. any person that thinks that an active inductor can not control DC current flow is a complete fool and needs to rethink knowledge of magnetism, inductance, self inductance and inductive reactance.
have a blessed Marathonman day. PS. i left OU because of the BS dictatorship of it's owner and deleted almost all my posts before he stopped me. Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2020 17:48:21 GMT -6
Dear Allan
I have no energy nor time to lead you to correct understanding Please feel free to copy what I do I have no issues with it but I’m not able to try to explain Complete Figuera device due that I’m still learning and attempting to replicate it please read MM carefully this man is knowledgeable and know what is talking about
I rest my case. Amen
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Post by allanv on Aug 30, 2020 18:02:03 GMT -6
Hi Marathonman,
I know that there is no mistake and I am not wrong. The Figuera invention is not understood yet but give it some time. One feed going to the positive brush needs to be reversed. There would be no magnetism created no inductance no opposition except wire resistance.
The smallest current difference between the two circuits on the same core would produce flux. The way to do this, the way that it is drawn would not work but the whole concept needs to be looked at.
Allan
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Post by Marathonman on Aug 30, 2020 18:12:09 GMT -6
If you can not understand this then there is no hope for you. two feeds, one positive brush which splits the inductor in two halves at the brush from the opposing fields created. read the tech thread in full because i an through trying to get through to you. Regards, Marathonman
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Post by allanv on Aug 30, 2020 18:35:05 GMT -6
Dear Allan I have no energy nor time to lead you to correct understanding Please feel free to copy what I do I have no issues with it but I’m not able to try to explain Complete Figuera device due that I’m still learning and attempting to replicate it please read MM carefully this man is knowledgeable and know what is talking about I rest my case. Amen Hi,
Thanks for your efforts. I do not need to make the Figuera device or understand its operation. The information personally received was that what I was relating about the workings and operation of my device was similar to the Figuera. It could explain principles that would make things easier and get the best output. But apparently not. I understand what you are saying about time and energy.
A fully working device, cheap and made from junked parts and made available could get some through the next few years. We are heading for difficult times.
Thanks for your input,
Allan
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Post by allanv on Aug 30, 2020 18:42:08 GMT -6
If you can not understand this then there is no hope for you. two feeds, one positive brush which splits the inductor in two halves at the brush from the opposing fields created. read the tech thread in full because i an through trying to get through to you. Regards, MarathonmanHi, we are actually talking about the same principles. There are two opposing N><N fields which cancel and any variation in currents creates flux.ThanksAllan
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2020 20:13:23 GMT -6
To whom it may concern, I the Admin of this site have banned Allenv from this forum. he has been disruptive to threads, made people go out of their way to get him to understand part G then tells us he never planned on building this device or understanding it. well guess what Allenv, your gone as in banned from this site. anyone else feels like F-in with the members or this site you will be in the same boat. good day and good night disrupter, and you wonder why you got banned from that lousy dictator site AU.
Regards, ADMIN
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Post by Marathonman on Aug 31, 2020 17:27:08 GMT -6
The biggest problem with most people especially on EF and OU was the fact that they were self appointed know it all's that had some college and or training (some NOT at all) that actually thought they knew it all. contrary to their beliefs, current change and inductance are universal as in each one can control the other. a current change will change inductance and vice verse inductance change will change current flow. the Figuera device or specifically part G active inductor controller is really quite a simple device yet has unique properties about it that allows multiple function to take place at the same time. what we have when you boil it down is part G is a reactor or rather a duel reactor when split into two halves by the opposing fields at the moving positive brush. this feature allows it to control two feeds separately yet 180 degrees from each other in complete unison. being a reactor means it reacts to the changing current just like a static inductor in an AC circuit or a Variac would with an opposing field with a twist of a knob yet in this case a rotating brush takes on that duty for you. being DC and steady current something had to change in order for the reactance to take place like in AC where the current fluctuation is the cause of the reactance. every time the current increases or decreases reactance takes place. in the Figuera device with DC something has to change or move in order for inductance or inductive reactance (according to Faraday) to take place. this is why the motor revolves the positive brush to have a circuit change take the place of the rise and fall of current like in AC. with a moving positive brush the circuit is constantly changing as is the inductance of each side of the circuit as per the steady current. what we end up with is a circuit that has ongoing inductance change on a steady basis for which according to Faraday has just fulfilled the Physics requirement to have inductance take place which is a rise and fall of flux. more winding's, more inductance, more opposition, less current flow. less winding's, less inductance, less opposition, more current flow which in these reactions has just given DC current frequency which according to inductive reactance which states, "any change of current falls under inductive reactance." so as you see it is quite simple, part G active inductive controller is therefore a split reactor that can and will control the DC current flow of two separate feeds 180 degrees from each other in complete unison.
Inductive reactance
The effect by which the current flow of an alternating or changing current in an inductor is reduced is called its inductive reactance. Any changing current in an inductor will be impeded as a result of the inductance associated with it.
The reason for this inductive reactance can be simply seen by examining the self-inductance and its effect within the circuit.
When a changing current is applied to an inductor, the self-inductance gives rise to an induced voltage. This voltage is proportional to the inductance and as a result of Lenz's law the induced voltage is in the opposite sense to the applied voltage. In this way the induced voltage will work against the voltage causing the current to flow and in this way it will impede the current flow.
so i tell all you self appointed know it all's, please try that with your college education compared to my two years of Business and Hotel management and my on line classroom teacher, the internet. it is amazing what research and bench work can accomplish. Much respect when returned, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Sept 9, 2020 9:04:06 GMT -6
I truely hope that i have posted enough information and presented it in an understandable way that allow people to understand the Figuera device and it's functions. since i really do not get feed back from anyone it is hard to know if i have accomplished my goal of educating people on the possibilities of self sustainability and this device.
approaching this device and the associated patent drawing one must have an open mind to the reality that the patent drawing is just that, a drawing for the understanding of the device ONLY. looking past the face value of the patent drawing you will realize that there is other possibilities of controlling current flow at a much, much higher efficiency then that of heat death resistance or resistors.
it really would be nice if i received feed back from the members of this forum to give me a mental picture of your level of understanding. having everyone on the same level of knowledge then moving forward will allow a higher level of accomplishment and will let me know if i am achieving my goal of educating everyone on the real device Figuera built.
having people around the world with the knowledge of these devices that self sustain will allow us to eventually be free from Government and Corporate control and domination which is my ultimate goal i would like to see the human race achieve.
Regards. Marathonman
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