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Post by Marathonman on Sept 13, 2022 9:19:14 GMT -6
2 question: I could not find on the WEB anyone who built, operated and got more output energy than input energy with operating readings, i.e. OVERUNITY , can -be that people have solved and use their device for themselves but do not communicate anything !!!!!!!!!!! Do you know these people? Yes!, I have had contact a long time ago with someone that had a working device yet lost contact. He would never give me the complete specifics on the device yet he knew way more about this device than anyone on the net. MIB showed up at his house and he shipped the device out of his state and was watched for a while. Mysteriously he came up with Cancer and is fighting that. His device was 5 kilowatt and running. It seems a bad quality in humans that as soon as they get ou they get greedy and want to build and sell it. Then the GOV or MIB moves in and all is lost instead of giving it to the world. Human STUPIDITY! Massive suppression and greed is the main reason we the people of this world do not have a free energy device at our home.Regards, Marathonman
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Post by beginner on Sept 17, 2022 16:44:37 GMT -6
Hi I am totally new to this. Where can I find the soft iron cores? I live in England. I have Patrick Kelly's free energy info book. It describes the Figuera device and it seems to require 14 C-shape cores. Patrick also includes some cheap solid state swithching circuits made on a breadboard. I am hoping the 7 pairs of coils will power my entire freezing cold house. I have just started reading about these generators, so I am looking for something easy to build without special tools. I am welcome suggestions for other types of motionless generator to power a whole house. I have watched the Marathon Man videos but I have no idea how any of these devices work. I want to build something that works first before worrying about why it works.
Here is Patrick's book:
Patrick passed away two years ago.
Thank you.
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Post by Marathonman on Sept 18, 2022 15:47:38 GMT -6
While I applaud you on your journey Patrick Kelly knew absolutely NOTHING of this device other then what someone sent him some of my work. And no C cores can not be used for the primaries this device because of reasons I have mentioned in the tech thread. My advice is read the entire tech thread and if u have question then ask. This device is still work in progress and not plug and play as in built then worry about how it works later. No OU device on this planet is plug and play because of absolute suppression.
Soft iron is disgustingly expensive and you would be better off getting grain oriented silicon iron to stop eddy currents.
Honestly I think the 1932 Coutier device would be much simpler for you to built but that's just my opinion. Emil P started to build the 1932 Coutier device with just four satelite cores and one center core and got an OU of 3.3 to 1 then disappeared either through greed, suppression or other influences.
PS. welcome aboard and good luck. Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Oct 3, 2022 9:19:54 GMT -6
The Figuera device uses a very unusual switching to progressively alter the flow of current in two separate feeds 180 degrees out in complete unison. He used DC because the alternating AC sine wave is just to slow in any power producing device on the planet. This is due to many reasons but the main one is the Lenz Law. Any person with even the slightest knowledge can figure this out realizing all field producing cores are DC operated on this planet.
What Figuera did was use a rotating brush on an active inductor to give "DC" AC like qualities (rise and fall) which is "frequency" which is a requirement of inductive reactance. It is the rise and fall of current that produces Inductive Reactance so the use of an active Inductor with a rotating positive brush solved this problem for him. Since we all know DC steady current flow can not produce inductive reactance except when current is first applied he had to use other means to achieve this. With the addition and subtraction of windings to the circuit as the brush rotates he achieved his goal of giving DC AC like qualities of frequency thus able to control DC current flow with the active inductor controller. Also the fact that current flows from negative to positive allows the current of both feeds to be controlled with a moving positive brush. Sorry Ben Franklin had a 50/50 chance and got it wrong yet the books were never changed....Ask yourself WHY?
He achieved this and in the process was able to achieve many other properties of part G active Inductor controller and those properties are as follows.
Multifunction features set of part G.
1. Two pole configuration to regulate current of two feeds.
2. Split the Inductor feeds into two controlling both 180 degrees out yet in complete unison.
3. Store and release potential into the system which off set each other.
4. Forward bias the rising side.
5. Amplification of potential.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Oct 11, 2022 15:04:05 GMT -6
Quote "Let be “R” a resistance that is drawn in an elementary manner to facilitate the comprehension of the entire system"
What part of this does not people understand. The patent is telling you it is not as shown meaning it is not basic resistance, it is something else that causes resistance to the current flow.
Quote "The different pieces of the resistance will connect, as seen in the drawing"
He's telling you that the resistance has many pieces. He is adding winding to the inductor on one side side and subtracting them from the other as the brush rotates.
Quote "Always in contact with more than one contact"
This is make before break to have continuous current flow with no BEMF. Also reduces sparking.
Quote "One of the ends of the resistance is connected with electromagnets N, and the other with electromagnets S"
He's telling you that the resistance is one long piece or winding around the core. It clearly states that each end it connected to the electromagnets sets.
Quote "Half of the terminals of the resistance pieces go to the half of the commutator bars of the cylinder and the other half of these commutator bars are directly connected to the firsts"
It is quite obvious that if they were winding's wrapped around the core (IE.. Pieces) of course one side is connected to the first because it is a winding.
Quote "Closes the circuit in each of the different contact until finished those in a semicircle, and begins to operate in the other half, which are directly connected to each other. In short, the resistance makes the function of a splitter of current"
This is exactly as I have suggested with my part G graph depicting the circle of travel as the brush rotates. It is directly connected to the first because it is a winding around the core. Also as I have depicted it will in fact split the large inductor in two at the positive brush enabling you to control two current feeds in complete unison yet 180 degrees from each other. (One increasing one decreasing)
This is also verified by this statement.
Quote "electrodes N and S works simultaneously and in opposite way because while the first ones are filling up with current, the seconds are emptying"
Quote "while repeating this effect continuously and orderly a constant variation of the magnetic fields within which is placed the induced circuit can be maintained"
Being that both primaries are powered up compressing the field lines then sweeping that collision point back and forth the secondary is placed within this electric field produced allowing you to collect the EMF just like a standard generator.
Quote "without any more complications than the turning of a brush or group of brushes that move circularly around the cylinder “G” powered by the action of a small electrical motor"
He is describing the brush travel only calling it a cylinder and does not show the rest of the core.
Quote " in every revolution of the brush will be a change of sign in the induced current; but a switch will do it continuous if wanted. From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the brush and the switch"
He's telling you that the secondary switches polarity as it is swept back and forth just like a standard generator AC switches direction. A small motor was used to turn the brush or group of brushes (More then one) in a circle pattern as I have suggested in my video and research. He describes a switch to straighten the current from the secondary feed back into the device through a commutator which is on the same shaft as the motor and brush or brushes. This feeds power to the device in a Dc like fashion because DC is far superior to AC in electromagnet field production.
Figuera was very cryptic in his wording to confuse the power Elite and the bankers. He may have sold his 1902 patents (4) to the bankers but he gave the 1908 patent to the world knowing the greedy Buforn would try to steel it. All you have to do is read between the lines and not take the patent wording and drawings verbatim as he has so stated. Figuera's wording on Part G describes the brush rotation only and not the rest of the core.
Inductors store and release energy, Inductive reactance controls current flow. Resistance converts energy into heat which is non recoverable...... I will leave it to you to decide which one Figuera used.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by xman on Oct 22, 2022 4:39:08 GMT -6
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Post by Marathonman on Oct 22, 2022 9:16:23 GMT -6
Yes I am aware of that group. One thing that bothers me is the sheer arrogance of the owner of the site and thinks his way is the only way to get free energy yet divulges plans for nothing. He seems to think everyone can understand the implications of what he is doing. Not all people understand that and have to do without because they don't understand it when it should be given freely which he does NOT! While i am happy for them I do not follow them nor care to. I was on that site and couldn't wait to leave which is why I deleted most of my info before he stopped me then banned me.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Oct 24, 2022 8:30:31 GMT -6
CLOSED SYSTEMS
Just reminding people that the Figuera device is actually two separate systems with one influencing the other with soft coupling at most with opposing fields. The excitation side and the power output side just like a standard generator are actually separate systems and as such the power side in the figuera device preserves the excitation potential with very little losses. Once the excitation potential is at running conditions the excitation potential is circulated throughout the excitation circuit. The excitation circuit consists of the active inductor controller, Set N and Set S electromagnets. The output circuit consists of the Secondary output and the load.
Another thing to remember is these two systems are closed systems and the only interaction between them is the secondary feedback to the excitation side. The excitation side is a closed system because an outside potential is used to start the device then removed which then the device will continue to run powering it self and the load. At no time is the power from the excitation side transferred to the secondary power output side thus the preserving of the excitation side is possible. The secondary feedback is fed to the device through a commutator turning it into DC which then replaces losses and gives rise to amplification. The amplification I am referring to is the three forms of potential within the device when running. When half of the device is reducing it will release some of it's stored potential back into the system raising the overall system voltage far above the starting potential thus negating the need for the starting supply any further and can be removed.
The three forms of potential are the reducing half of the active inductor controller, the reducing set of electromagnets either being set N or set S, and the secondary feed back. These three forms of potential raise the overall voltage potential above the starting potential allowing the device to continue to run when the starting potential is removed or no longer needed.
These three forms of potential which raise the over all voltage potential (Amplification) forward biases the rising electromagnets allowing the device to replace the loss in pressure of the reducing side. By replacing this reduced potential allows the device to maintain the proper pressure between the two electromagnets throughout the entire sweep maintaining it's output to the load. Each side of this device counteracts the other side, one will be increasing storing into the magnetic field (Voltage drop) while the reducing side is releasing it's stored potential (Voltage rise) into the system. Thus the secondary feedback replaces losses and gives rise to amplification to the rising set of electromagnets.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Oct 28, 2022 19:27:13 GMT -6
Take your pic
Either the FIguera device or the 1932 Coutier devices are known and documented free energy devices. In those days a working device model had to accompany the device otherwise the patent office would not grant a patent. Figuera 5 patents and Coutier one patent. The 1882 device was an idea patent but it will also work along the lines of the Coutier device. The 1882 device is one continuous field so the odds of it being powerful are very high and possibly more powerful then the Coutier device.
We live in the Universe that is a perpetual machine so why wouldn't free energy be possible........Because the power Elite don't want u to have your own energy! we have been spinning and traveling through space at a very high speed for billons of years and no one is there shoving or spinning us lol!
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Admin on Oct 30, 2022 19:28:39 GMT -6
I will be giving the 1882 device it's own space soon. I am down right now with a cold, YES! a cold for the first time in a long time lol!. It is in the same lines as the 1932 Coutier device yet I still think it needs it own space. Regards, Admin
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Post by xman on Nov 7, 2022 7:03:31 GMT -6
Hi Marathonman Hope you feel better soon. Hi solarlab, Figuera is a continuous DC, Holcomb is a 4ms pulse, maybe the principle is different, but maybe Dr. Holcomb invented the Holcomb device after drawing on Figuera. I think the half-bridge circuit of the electronic version of the two should be the same.
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Post by Marathonman on Nov 9, 2022 19:07:22 GMT -6
Hello, and thank you for your concern. No the Figuera device is not continuous DC. Yes it is DC driven but it is given AC like qualities with frequency meaning rise and fall of current flow from the control of an active inductor controller thus given frequency to DC thus falling under inductive reactance.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Dec 11, 2022 16:06:37 GMT -6
Faraday's Laws state that a Time-varying Flux produces an EMF. He doesn't specifically state a changing current because alternating current did not exist in 1831 but it is "one way" to create a time-varying magnetic flux. What can also produce an increase in flux is the expansion and contraction of a circuit creating EMF along with rotating the coil through a magnetic field or it's relative position to said field.
If there is a time-varying magnetic flux within the loop It will now induce a time-varying current in this loop because the CEMF created from the Lenz Law there will be a negative voltage induced in the loop, effectively impeding the initial flow of current. Clearly, as the size of the loop area becomes larger, the amount of negative voltage (inductive impedance) will increase. The loop area is the primary physical effect that controls the amount of inductance a current will experience.
Increasing the loop count or effective loop area will of course increase the inductance of the circuit which therefore lowers the current flow through the circuit. It is quite simple, increase the loop count within the time constant of said circuit and the current flow will be reduced. All this is in exact accordance with Faraday's Laws of induction in 1831 and violates nothing in Physics.
Clemente Figuera's device violates not one physics law which by the way incorrectly assume there is no perpetual motion. We live on and in a perpetual motion machine that has been spinning and hurling through space for billions of years. DUH! could it be the Physics guys are bought and paid for by the power Elite stating there is no such thing as perpetual motion. Apparently the Earth/Universe did not get that memo, and neither did Maxwell. DUH!
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Dec 17, 2022 18:17:48 GMT -6
How to control current flow.
Resistance-Bad and waste power through heat non-recoverable. Increase current flow. Increase Inductance or self inductance with the same amount of current.
By increasing the winding or loop count associated with that side of the circuit with the same given current, you increase the inductance for that side of the circuit. If you increase the self inductance you increase the opposition to the original current flow. So increase the self inductance by increasing the loop count you lower the current flow through that side of the circuit IE... set N.
The opposite is true by decreasing the loop count the opposition to current flow is reduced and the current rises IE... set S and vise verse on a continuous basis. By increasing and decreasing the current flow through the electromagnets you just gave DC frequency and thus falls under Inductive Reactance and can control current flow continuously as long as the circuit continues to expand and contract.
Remember Faraday's Laws 1831 state an increase in flux is the root cause of an EMF generation not a change in current flow. There are many ways to increase flux in a circuit and Figuera just so happened to use one of them...IE increase the circuit or loop count which is in exact accordance to Faraday's Law's of induction.
Regards, Marathonman
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Post by Marathonman on Jan 10, 2023 11:52:58 GMT -6
I do understand that people have a hard time understanding "Inductance" controlling current flow but one has to understand the limitations of the Government controlled school systems and Cabal higher institution learning. They are not implemented for you to change the world for the better, they are designed for you to be indoctrinated into the corporate world as a yes sir, no sir robot doing as they say. Unfortunately it takes massive money to be privy to the real science and physics of our real universe. MIT for example has insights to such information that the average person on this planet will never see or possibly hear of or maybe by happenstance.
Most of the time they tell you DC can not control current flow which is basically true for a static inductor. They are not lying but no where near to the full disclosure of information. Applying DC to an inductor does in fact cause current reduction yet is only short lived as the time constant of the circuit dictates. In order for DC to have ongoing inductance something has to be in constant movement either with an ongoing flux change, expansion of the circuit or a current change. As with AC there is a constant increase and decrease in current flow that causes ongoing inductance. So with DC Figuera had to get creative and give DC, AC like qualities of increase and decrease in current flow.
In order to do this he followed the exact laws set forth by Faraday's Laws of induction that states "ANY!, increase in flux will cause a generation of EMF". Mind you this was many, many years before AC was EVER invented so the Laws have no baring on whether it was AC or DC just stating a fact that an increase in flux creates an EMF with no stipulations on how the flux will be increased.
So that leads me to Figuera's part G controller which can be viewed as a variable flux controller or a variable Impedance controller that used the self inductance or the expanding and contracting circuit to create CEMF which therefore controls current flow. with a circuit of say 4 winds will have a finite amount of inductance which will impede the current flow slightly. If within the time constant of said circuit one was to increase the windings to say 40 winds, the circuit will in fact have a substantial larger amount of self inductance which will impede the current flow considerable more. so therefore within the time constant of the circuit one was to increase and decrease the circuit loop count one can actually control current flow and as such being an inductor actually controls current flow in the most efficient was possible on this planet. Using self inductance to control current flow all while storing and releasing from the magnetic field back into the system.
This controller of figuera's violates not one Physics law and actually embraces the Laws set forth by Michael Faraday and Emil Lenz. As with creasysee he had so many winding's of self inductance the current flow in his system was darn near zero. Yes!, it is possible to control current flow to zero with self inductance and creasysee followed my parameters to the letter with an outstanding circuit and video of just how self inductance can and will control current flow.
Regards, Marathonman
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